Hay-Zues IPA, what are your thoughts on my fresh hop zeus Options

[dirtyd49]

Batch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 10.00
Anticipated OG: 1.077 Plato: 18.55
Anticipated SRM: 11.5
Anticipated IBU: 78.6
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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60.0 6.00 lbs. Briess DME- Gold America 1.046 8
20.0 2.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2
5.0 0.50 lbs. Crystal 80L 1.033 80
5.0 0.50 lbs. Wheat Malt America 1.038 2
10.0 1.00 lbs. Munich Malt(2-row) America 1.035 6

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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0.75 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 25.7 30 min.
0.75 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 20.3 25 min.
0.50 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 11.3 20 min.
0.50 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 9.0 15 min.
0.50 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 6.7 10 min.
0.50 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 5.6 5 min.
1.00 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 0.0 0 min.
1.50 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 0.0 Dry Hop


please tell me what you would adjust

[jayb151]

I think it looks pretty good, although you're doing a mini-mash right? Seems like you are.
I like that hop schedule. Packing it full of flavor. One thing i might consider is cutting down on the munich a little. I think it might add a bit too much malt when you're really going for the hop character. Other than that, Enjoy.
May your beer flow like wine!
Jay

[BrianHolton]

More info please.
Looks interesting, though. I have a Zeus hop plant but didn't get much out of it this year as it was the first year. I'd like to hear what those zeus taste/smell like.

[SWL]

Brian, Zeus is reported to be the same as Columbus. In any case is a high alpha American "C" hop. I planted a rather large rhizome also this year and got over 2 oz. yield of really good hops. For first year I was very pleased.

Dirtyd49, that recipe looks great to me. Not knowing how big a Hop Head you are, I would try the beer out first before you dry hoped with the whole 1.5 oz.

[BrianHolton]

Brian, Zeus is reported to be the same as Columbus. In any case is a high alpha American "C" hop. I planted a rather large rhizome also this year and got over 2 oz. yield of really good hops. For first year I was very pleased.

Dirtyd49, that recipe looks great to me. Not knowing how big a Hop Head you are, I would try the beer out first before you dry hoped with the whole 1.5 oz.

Yeah, I'm familiar with zeus being the "Z" in CTZ, so I know approximately what it should be like. But it's not the same as columbus. It's a relative of columbus. So I'd love to hear what a zeus-only brew is like.

[dirtyd49]

ok, i changed the recipe at the last moment here is what I did what do you think?
i will update after i keg,

tch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 9.00
Anticipated OG: 1.067 Plato: 16.46
Anticipated SRM: 10.8
Anticipated IBU: 79.9
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
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Evaporation Rate: 15.00 Percent Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 5.88 Gal
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Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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55.6 5.00 lbs. Briess DME- Gold America 1.046 8
25.0 2.25 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2
5.6 0.50 lbs. Crystal 80L 1.033 80
5.6 0.50 lbs. Wheat Malt America 1.038 2
8.3 0.75 lbs. Munich Malt(2-row) America 1.035 6



Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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2.25 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 53.0 20 min.
0.75 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 14.0 15 min.
0.50 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 7.0 10 min.
0.50 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 5.8 5 min.
1.00 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 0.0 0 min.
1.00 oz. Zeus Whole 17.00 0.0 Dry Hop

[BrianHolton]

Did you meet your anticipated OG? How did it smell? taste?

[dirtyd49]

Did you meet your anticipated OG? How did it smell? taste?

I was close on the OG 1.062 is what I got. I just tried a little after being in the fermenter and it is hoppy, but still very sweet. I am glad I used a little wheat malt for body. The smell was the best part so far, I will let you know when I keg in a few weeks. I might not dry hop due to the smell already.

I was wondering if any one has done any thing close to this and played around with dry hopping vs not. I might split the batch? We'll see.

[pinnah]

I was wondering if any one has done any thing close to this and played around with dry hopping vs not. I might split the batch? We'll see.

I have done a few batches really similar.
Last yeat I split a batch; dryhopped one, and not the other.
They ended very different, with the dry hopped batch much more aromatic and fresh.

In my experience,
dry hopping imparts a strong fresh aroma, much different than late hopping aroma.

Split it and see what you get! Enjoy.

[BMBrewery]

What would you use in place of the DME to go all-grain?

[dirtyd49]

What would you use in place of the DME to go all-grain?

bump the two row up to 10.25. I mashed in at 153

This post has been edited by dirtyd49: Dec 12 2008, 07:00 PM

[dirtyd49]

Did you meet your anticipated OG? How did it smell? taste?

I sampled this batch today... it was good. the malt gives it enought back bone to support the hops. The zeus were a little more metallic then the columbus. I don't know if anyone else has expericenced this but is was very good overall. It was fruity and had a complete hop taste and very fresh smell. The bitterness was balanced. if this lasts more then a few weeks I will be happy. I will do this again next year for sure. I am really enjoying the malt bill and may use the same on a few other late hop recipes.
if you brew something similar please give me your feed back on your brews.