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> Kolsch, One more time...I need something good
gusso
post Mar 30 2006, 07:38 PM
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I asked this question earlier in the week, but I never got a chance to read the replies due to the technical problems. Anyway, i usually do big beers but I'm in an adventurous mood. I picked up a vial of the White Labs Kolsch last weekend. Does anyone have a good or unusual Kolsch recipe?
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post Mar 30 2006, 09:19 PM
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Try once again

1.50 lbs malted white wheat
15.250 lbs pilsner
2.0 lbs munich

1.50 saaz 90 min
1.75 hallertauer 90 min
0.25 hallertauer 30 min rest

white lab kolsch

When in secondard cold crash for at least two weeks.


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post Mar 30 2006, 10:58 PM
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wow, is that for 5 gallons or 10? I think I have all those ingredients on hand, I'd better get a starter going soon.
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post Mar 30 2006, 11:35 PM
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Definitely 10, otherwise, it ceases to be a kolsch. Plus, he said he is looking to brew something lower grav. (IMG:style_emoticons/brewboard/cheers.gif)
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post Mar 31 2006, 07:23 AM
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In the original thread I recommended giving sterling hops a try in your kolsch. It's an excellant hop choice either alone or combined with some of more traditional German varieties (hallertau, tettnanger, etc).
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post Apr 2 2006, 08:07 AM
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I just noticed that there are some recipes posted on the Bluebonnet site. Here is the 2000 1st place Kolsch recipe:


Kolsch

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post Apr 2 2006, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(gusso @ Mar 30 2006, 10:58 PM) *
wow, is that for 5 gallons or 10? I think I have all those ingredients on hand, I'd better get a starter going soon.

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post Apr 2 2006, 10:39 AM
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Thanks for the repies, I'll get a starter going and brew next Saturday. I'll primary while I'm in London (leaving Monday) then transfer to secondary and place it in the basement (nice and cool).
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post Apr 2 2006, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(REM @ Apr 2 2006, 08:07 AM) *
I just noticed that there are some recipes posted on the Bluebonnet site. Here is the 2000 1st place Kolsch recipe:
Kolsch

Wowzers! That's one butt-long mash schedule. I am finishing my boil now for a Kolsch and it was almost the same thing but those 90 minutes were truncated to 30 mins.
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post Apr 3 2006, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE(Steve Ressel @ Apr 2 2006, 12:25 PM) *
Wowzers! That's one butt-long mash schedule. I am finishing my boil now for a Kolsch and it was almost the same thing but those 90 minutes were truncated to 30 mins.


Yes. That's the longest I've seen.

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Procedures
Performed a Multi Step Mash with mash out.

90 minutes - 104 degrees F
90 minutes - 140 degrees F
60 minutes - 158 degrees F
15 minutes - 170 degrees F


I might have a go at a mash like that on my next pilsener and see what the results are. I guess the efficiency will be improved and I'm still struggling to get up to a nominal efficiency out of the grains.

Do I understand correctly that the mash must begin with low temps that are increased? That is, this would not work doing:

60 minutes - 158 degrees F
90 minutes - 140 degrees F
90 minutes - 104 degrees F
15 minutes - 170 degrees F

Using the natural cooling? I "think" that the enzyme action of the 104 degree portion will not work after say doing the 140 degree portion.

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post Apr 3 2006, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(REM @ Apr 3 2006, 08:10 AM) *
I "think" that the enzyme action of the 104 degree portion will not work after say doing the 140 degree portion.
Yes, I think that's correct. Raising the temperature too far above an enzyme's "happy zone" (a technical term) will denature it, rendering it ineffective even if the temperature is later lowered. Kinda like a slinky - you can put some weight ("temperature" in this analogy) on it and, when you remove the weight, it will go back to it's natural length. But put too much weight on it, and the slinky's ruined.
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post Apr 3 2006, 07:03 PM
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The kolsch recipe from this site is pretty good with that yeast
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post Apr 4 2006, 11:54 AM
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I'll second that. I had one of Cav's HBA a.g. Kolsch and it was outstanding. This will be a great brew on a hot day.
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