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Alpha Male
post Jun 17 2007, 10:35 AM
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Here is one of my tried and true recipes I thought I would share with all of you. I think that this last batch was the best ever so I'll give you that variation.

5 gallons

Grain:

13# Ida Pils
3# orange blossom honey
1# Clear Belgian candi sugar (sugar
1# Honey malt
.5# carapils

single infusion mash at 150 degrees for 1 hour

hops:

2 oz hallertauer 60 min =26 ibu's
spices:

1.5oz. orange peel
1.25oz. corriander
.5oz. Ginger root
Irish moss

spices and moss added in the last 15 minutes of the boil

Add honey in while chilling at 180 degree mark (very important)

Yeast is wyeast 3787 with a starter. Have never used anything else on this beer so I cannot suggest any subs. I'm sure anyting belgianish would be fine.

Now you HAVE !!! to let this on set. Seems like 4-5 months at least. The longer it sets the smoother and more "stupid" it gets. Meaning it gets smoother and easier to drink, and will get you into trouble. On this last one I am down to the last couple of bottles. It is 8 months old and really hitting it's prime.

Starting gravity will be around 1.090 and finish about 1.014-1.018. if you have any problems getting it to drop put in some champaigne yeast and watch it closely.

You may find this one to be a little "hot" (alcohol) at transfers. very normal, RDWHAHB.

Have fun Alpha Male (IMG:style_emoticons/brewboard/withstupid.gif)
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post Jun 17 2007, 12:46 PM
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This is one helluva beer. I have to agree on the age, it needs a bit of time to come together, but once it does...watch out!

I believe the plan for the next round of this brew will be a bigger batch and we'll split it on WY3787, 1388 and 1762 for comparison's sake.
Based on a locally brewed Belgian Golden Strong I have a feeling this would be fantastic on WY3944...a good second brew after a Witbier.

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post Jun 18 2007, 07:37 AM
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This looks like a tasty recipe and I've been looking for something funky to use up my orangeblossom honey in. Quick question.... What would be the White Labs equivelant of 3787? WLP530, 540 or 550? Will any of those get me close? Isn't 3787 the Westmalle strain?
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post Jun 18 2007, 07:47 AM
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3787 is apparently the same as WLP530, with both being the Westmalle strain according to Brew Like a Monk. Looks like a nice recipe. Might have to try a Belgian strong ale with honey someday. So many recipes, so little time. (IMG:style_emoticons/brewboard/hehe.gif)
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post Jun 18 2007, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(lowendfrequency @ Jun 18 2007, 07:37 AM) *
This looks like a tasty recipe and I've been looking for something funky to use up my orangeblossom honey in. Quick question.... What would be the White Labs equivelant of 3787? WLP530, 540 or 550? Will any of those get me close? Isn't 3787 the Westmalle strain?


I would say that wl500 or maybe 530 would be the closest. Anything for a tripel would work. 540 is less fruity than 500/ 530. I think that I like that in the 500/530.
Again I have only used the 3787. Hence the next experiment with Drew comming up.
Give one or two of them a try and let us know how they compaire.
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post Jun 18 2007, 09:59 PM
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Guys, I was lucky enough to spend the day this weekend brewing 40 gallons of barleywine with Drewseslu and Alpha Male and let me tell you this beer rocks! It was soooo smooth, the beer name really says it all. Great beer Jeff!
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post Jun 19 2007, 05:45 AM
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QUOTE(dadzcool @ Jun 18 2007, 09:59 PM) *
Guys, I was lucky enough to spend the day this weekend brewing 40 gallons of barleywine with Drewseslu and Alpha Male and let me tell you this beer rocks! It was soooo smooth, the beer name really says it all. Great beer Jeff!


Thanks Joe, Your dead guy rocks also.
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post Jun 24 2007, 11:09 AM
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Dreweslu, Dadzcool, Neonleon,
Here is the recipe for 60 gallons, With Garys' two coolers at 1.1qts/lb. it will fit. If we decide to make more we can add My 70qt. and my friend Dougs 60Qt.

156# Ida Pils
36# Honey
12# Sugar
20# Honey malt
6# Carapils

24oz. Hallertauer @ 60 min.

18oz. Bitter Orange peel
6oz. Ginger Root
15oz. Corriander

This is figuring everyone that was there at the last session does 10 gallons. Plus my buddy Doug wants in. If anybody else wants in we will have to add a mash tun.
I believe that I can do a 15 gallon batch in my mash tun, and a 10 in Dougs, if we have any add ons.

Can't believe I am actually considering that 60 gallons of the Stupid won't be enough. (IMG:style_emoticons/brewboard/devil.gif)

Hey Yeager, jump in chicken if you dare.

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post Jun 25 2007, 05:57 PM
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I think you mean 12lbs of Honey Malt.
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post Jun 25 2007, 06:08 PM
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Drewslu was nice enough to open a bottle of this last weekend. I was a little skeptical, corriander and ginger didn't sound like something I would appreciate in a beer.

Long story short - I would have drank a lot of it if it had been around - but it then it would have been a really short Saturday. Nice job Alpha!!

dj
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post Jun 25 2007, 06:19 PM
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Having not tasted it I think I must brew it to form an opinion. That said, the recipe looks excellent.


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post Jun 25 2007, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(drewseslu @ Jun 25 2007, 05:57 PM) *
I think you mean 12lbs of Honey Malt.


Yes you are correct 12#

QUOTE(DJ in KC @ Jun 25 2007, 06:08 PM) *
Drewslu was nice enough to open a bottle of this last weekend. I was a little skeptical, corriander and ginger didn't sound like something I would appreciate in a beer.

Long story short - I would have drank a lot of it if it had been around - but it then it would have been a really short Saturday. Nice job Alpha!!

dj


Glad you enjoyed it, there are very few left.
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post Jun 26 2007, 07:25 AM
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Alpha - this sounds awesome! I really like ginger in beer, and love belgians, and this looks like a great recipe.
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post Jun 26 2007, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(LoveThemBrowns @ Jun 26 2007, 07:25 AM) *
Alpha - this sounds awesome! I really like ginger in beer, and love belgians, and this looks like a great recipe.


Careful with the ginger. It can easly overpower this beer. this is about the 6th attempt at all different levels. I think that this one was just about right. Mixes well with the other spices and yeast without overpowering.
Give it a shot and let us know how it comes out. remember time, time, time.
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post Jul 1 2007, 07:59 AM
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Had the second bottle you gave me last night with Harvinstl and another brews member after a long brewday. We agreed not only is it liquid candy, but it has the potential to be a powerful panty solvent, as well.
I'm starting to think it really starts to come into its own about six months down the line...its just hard to keep it around that long.
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