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> Jimvy's Wheat Wine, Sister beer of my Big Ass Barleywine
Jimvy
post Jul 2 2007, 03:06 PM
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I stopped posting recipes a few years ago when I was competing a lot, but now that I'm pretty much out of the competition scene, I thought I better get back here and post some brews. I won Best of Show for my barleywine recipe a few years back and decided to do some experimenting with it. The first experiment was to change half the base malt to wheat and make a wheat wine. This was almost unheard of when I did it....I couldn't even find a commercial example to try. The second experiment was to replace the wheat with rye (that one is a little rough and is still lagering....will let you know down the road).

I have to admit, this is one of the best beers I've made (and I've made a lot!). Everyone who's had it has really enjoyed it, including myself (IMG:style_emoticons/brewboard/wink.gif) . To give you a hint of the results...the wheat really lightens up the body and let's the hops shine thru (they are pretty much subdued on the barleywine). If you like your hops, you'll dig this one.

Big Ass Wheatwine


Batch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 19.00
Anticipated OG: 1.107 Plato: 25.36
Anticipated SRM: 12.2
Anticipated IBU: 118.7
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Hop IBU Formula Used: Tinseth

Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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44.7 8.50 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) Great Britain 1.038 3
44.7 8.50 lbs. Wheat Malt UK 1.038 2
2.6 0.50 lbs. CaraVienne Malt Belgium 1.034 22
5.3 1.00 lbs. Aromatic Malt Belgium 1.036 25
2.6 0.50 lbs. CaraMunich 60 France 1.034 60


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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1.00 oz. Nugget Pellet 13.00 36.9 60 min.
1.00 oz. Centennial Pellet 10.50 29.8 60 min.
1.00 oz. Centennial Pellet 10.50 22.9 30 min.
2.00 oz. Cascade Pellet 4.40 12.4 15 min.
2.00 oz. Cascade Pellet 4.40 9.0 10 min.
2.00 oz. Cascade Pellet 4.40 5.0 5 min.
2.00 oz. Cascade Pellet 5.75 2.8 2 min.
1.25 oz. Cascade Whole 5.75 0.0 Dry Hop


Yeast
English Ale or Burton
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post Jul 2 2007, 03:26 PM
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Hey Jim,

Is this the same thing that you brought out to the GABF last year?

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post Jul 2 2007, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(tjthresh @ Jul 2 2007, 03:26 PM) *
Hey Jim,

Is this the same thing that you brought out to the GABF last year?

Tom


Yep...this is the beer.
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post Jul 2 2007, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(Jimvy @ Jul 2 2007, 03:42 PM) *
Yep...this is the beer.

That beer frickin' rocked!
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post Jul 2 2007, 06:39 PM
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This fall I'm planning to throw my hat into the Wheatwine ring. I'm thinking along the lines of a cereal mash with unmalted wheat, some malted wheat and some crystal wheat.
I like the hop and yeast choices, for sure, I'll probably stick with something like that.
For once, I completely agree with TJ, this is one very tasty beer.

Jimvy, what barleywine category did it take BOS as? I think I remember you saying it competed well as an EBW...but that could have been through a haze of Schlafly APA and semi-sensical lessons at our BJCP class.
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post Jul 2 2007, 07:46 PM
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What"s the ageing requirement on this? Similar to a BW?
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post Jul 2 2007, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(drewseslu @ Jul 2 2007, 06:39 PM) *
Jimvy, what barleywine category did it take BOS as? I think I remember you saying it competed well as an EBW...but that could have been through a haze of Schlafly APA and semi-sensical lessons at our BJCP class.


Yep...the barleywine took BOS as an english....given the high gravity and the malt, the hops really come out subdued.



QUOTE(Bob G @ Jul 2 2007, 07:46 PM) *
What"s the ageing requirement on this? Similar to a BW?


I'd say this is better a lot quicker than your typical barleywine...think more along the lines of double-IPA.


And thanks for the comments guys...it's much appreciated. My brother begs me to make this beer everytime he's coming to town so he can take a keg home....getting to be about that time again.
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post Jul 2 2007, 08:40 PM
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Hey Jimvy

Smuttynose is coming out with a Wheat Wine in August. Did they steal your recipe (IMG:style_emoticons/brewboard/hehe.gif)

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post Jul 2 2007, 08:46 PM
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Jim

Could I talk you into posting some sort of Pro-Mash Link so I dont screw up copying this one by hand into my Recipe folder?

Mike
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post Jul 5 2007, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(MicCullen @ Jul 2 2007, 08:46 PM) *
Jim

Could I talk you into posting some sort of Pro-Mash Link so I dont screw up copying this one by hand into my Recipe folder?

Mike


Here ya go: Promash File Link
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post Jul 5 2007, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(Jimvy @ Jul 5 2007, 06:57 AM) *
Here ya go: Promash File Link



Thanks
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post Jul 6 2007, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(Steelmohawk @ Jul 2 2007, 09:40 PM) *
Hey Jimvy

Smuttynose is coming out with a Wheat Wine in August. Did they steal your recipe (IMG:style_emoticons/brewboard/hehe.gif)


Smuttynose has had a Wheat Wine for at least two years. That is how long ago I had it at least. Recipe looks good. Might give it a shot.
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post Jul 7 2007, 01:03 PM
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How would something like this be, fermented with a Hefe yeast? Have to be a big cake of yeast in order to get close to antenuation, but just wonder how the flavor would be affected.
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post Jul 7 2007, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE(bobjohnson @ Jul 7 2007, 01:03 PM) *
How would something like this be, fermented with a Hefe yeast? Have to be a big cake of yeast in order to get close to antenuation, but just wonder how the flavor would be affected.


An imperial hefe is one thing...but with the hops in this one, it'd be like making a double IPA and fermenting with hefe....doesn't particularly sound tastey to me, but I'm all for experimenting.
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post Jul 8 2007, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Jimvy @ Jul 7 2007, 11:35 PM) *
An imperial hefe is one thing...but with the hops in this one, it'd be like making a double IPA and fermenting with hefe....doesn't particularly sound tastey to me, but I'm all for experimenting.

Sounds like it might be worth pulling off a gallon and fermenting with hefe yeast. A whole batch done like that could be a waste. Yet, Belgian IPAs can be mighty tasty...
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