Automated Propane burner w/ pilot Options

[dagomike]

Anyone do anything like this? I was listening to the brewing network on the drive in today and Chris Graham was talking about what the B3 systems ship with. Basically it's a burner w/ a pilot and the temp controller kicks on a valve to turns the gas on and off.

[blktre]

Colplink prolly has the best pics and plans out there....

Figured you knew all about this..

http://www.alenuts.com/brutus.htm

[dagomike]

Ah... yes... forgot about that. Anyone know the ASCO valve he's using? I wonder if I could rig a pilot to run on a regular ring burner? I'll bug Colplink too...

[Swagman]

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[Kind_Gnome]

I built a system simiular to Colplink's that utilizes two ASCO valves (Model #: 8210G002)

http://www.brewboard.com/index.php?showtop...mp;#entry910827

[dagomike]

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OK... how did you do that? And don't tell me you sprayed a little lighter fluid and lit it.

[dagomike]

I built a system simiular to Colplink's that utilizes two ASCO valves (Model #: 8210G002)

That is going to give me something to pour over... very nice setup.

[uraburr]

That is going to give me something to pour over... very nice setup.

dagomike, I was thinking about doing this for some time. great timely thread.

kind_knome - A piece of art. well done. I may have some questions when it comes time for me to add a control panel and gas valve.

[dagomike]

Ok, I just picked up a solenoid valve off of ebay. Looks like I'm heading down the path. I'll get it running with my Ranco controller and probably pick up a Love TS once I'm ready to go into production. Now I just need to get them plumbing and pilot figured out.

[JoePolvino]

OK... how did you do that? And don't tell me you sprayed a little lighter fluid and lit it.

Looks like the support bolt has been hollowed out and gets a small gas feed (see the brass nuts on the bottom).

[tag]

John Palmer, author of How To Brew , is working on one like that too.

[Kind_Gnome]

Ok, I just picked up a solenoid valve off of ebay. Looks like I'm heading down the path. I'll get it running with my Ranco controller and probably pick up a Love TS once I'm ready to go into production. Now I just need to get them plumbing and pilot figured out.

I struggled for awhile tiring to figure out how I was going to do the pilot lights. The pilot lights on my system are a standard gas ball valve connected to flexible gas line (1/2 threads, made for water heaters, can be found at HD or Lowes). On the end of the flex line is a ½” compression to ¼” standard thread reducer and on the other side of the reducer is a propane check valve (with check removed) that is normally found on the end of the propane regulator that connects to your propane tank. When I connected the three propane burners to the hard pipe, I removed the standard check valve and ACME plastic nut that would be used to connect the burners directly to a propane tank. I was about to throw them away when I realized I could pull out the spring and ball that makes them check valves. Put it back together and it makes a nice pilot light tip. I’m bad with trying to explain stuff so maybe this picture will help….

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Hope that makes sense. you can see them on this pic:

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This post has been edited by Kind_Gnome: Aug 30 2007, 01:33 PM

[Lonnie Mac]

You fellas are making my mouth water!

My ASCO valves are two #SC8210G37's I found on eBAY... NO! They don't have to be stainless, but SS is very cool to match an all SS system. Normally these SS valves are around 300 each but they were 100 for two on eBAY! That is the ONLY reason I have SS ASCO valves on Brutus 10. My old system had brass and no problem...

There are many red hats on eBAY and most all of them would work for this kind of application and they are butt cheap. Just pick your pipe size, make sure it is 120V and normally-closed NC (which they usually are). There are only three wires comming out of them so even I figured it out...! It is a simple switch, only requiring a simple temp controller to send them power (open) or not (closed)...

They are the handiest little things!

Lonnie Mac

[dagomike]

Colplink -- thanks for joining us.

So, the idea is to have a controller w/ a probe in the tank, the controller connected to AC, then wire the ASCO to the controller. Temp goes down, valve opens, goes up, closes.

Then have your regulator off of your LP tank go into a T fitting. One end goes to a pilot w/ a valve part opened, the other goes to the ASCO, ASCO goes to the burner.

Sounds like a piece of cake, except for the pilot bit. Swag as a suggestion on a wok pilot system, but I'm not really environing it. Does everyone just run a regular gas valve for the pilot? Is the flame low enough?

[Lonnie Mac]

Colplink -- thanks for joining us.

So, the idea is to have a controller w/ a probe in the tank, the controller connected to AC, then wire the ASCO to the controller. Temp goes down, valve opens, goes up, closes.

Then have your regulator off of your LP tank go into a T fitting. One end goes to a pilot w/ a valve part opened, the other goes to the ASCO, ASCO goes to the burner.

Sounds like a piece of cake, except for the pilot bit. Swag as a suggestion on a wok pilot system, but I'm not really environing it. Does everyone just run a regular gas valve for the pilot? Is the flame low enough?

You have this figured out nicely!

The pilot is adjusted solely with a ¼ turn valve, as low, or as wide open as you like. The whole system runs off of one regulator, burners set to whatever you like as well...

Lonnie Mac