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dc2002
post Mar 1 2008, 05:14 PM
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Man...going electric is a lot of work...I think I'm about 1/3 of the way there or so...

Today I bought a 50A spa panel with a GFCI and installed it in the garage. I made room in my existing main panel and yanked the 50A GFCI breaker out of the spa panel and put it in the main panel. Then I ran some 6/3 into the garage to where I mounted the spa panel. Now I have 4 breaker locations to distribute from the spa panel that will be GFCI protected.

I plan to use one 30A 2 pole breaker for the element and 2 15A breakers to add a couple more outlets in my garage.

My control panel will plug into a 30A 240V outlet ran from the spa box...just trying to figure out how to run the wires behind walls and ceilings to minimize the conduit.

For the panel I will use an Auber PID with auto/manual setting, an SSR, a DPST switch for the 240V circuit to be able to kill all power to the element if necessary, and hopefully a 110V duplex outlet for the pump, radio, etc...still trying to figure the easiest way to have 110 in the control box...

Attached is a schematic of the panel thus far...still have to actually get an enclosure... (IMG:http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/kdcj2002/brew/brewbox.jpg)

Thanks to all the knowledgeable people on this board and especially Paul Muth(P-J)...There will be a pictoral to come...
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post Mar 6 2008, 03:34 PM
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So is your 20A SPST switch going to cut power to the PID and the 120v outlet? I don't think you want to do that.

I put a switch on the hot line to my PID so I can cut its power independently. You can probably also run it off straight 240 (most you can) and have it switched by your 30A DPST, or you can give it its own DPST. I bought some cheap small DPST rocker switches on eBay. I think it cost me $5 for 10 of them. I used both poles for a couple of things, and only one pole on some others.

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dc2002   Going Electric - almost there...   Mar 1 2008, 05:14 PM
VolFan   Im doing the same thing, only a bathroom remodel h...   Mar 1 2008, 09:20 PM
stangbat   Did you run 10/3 with ground to the control box? ...   Mar 1 2008, 09:43 PM
dc2002   I have not quite figured how to power the control ...   Mar 2 2008, 07:58 AM
P-J   Carl, You are spot on. A 10/2 run for the 240 volt...   Mar 2 2008, 08:21 AM
stangbat   Like PJ said, you don't need 10/3 with ground ...   Mar 2 2008, 09:02 AM
dc2002   Stangbat - your schematic in one of the posts of y...   Mar 2 2008, 11:29 AM
stangbat   QUOTE(dc2002 @ Mar 2 2008, 10:29 AM) Stan...   Mar 2 2008, 11:55 AM
stevehaun   I did the same thing that Stangbat did. I have a ...   Mar 2 2008, 09:55 PM
dc2002   Ok, Attached is the latest schematic...I have dec...   Mar 6 2008, 10:20 AM
stangbat   So is your 20A SPST switch going to cut power to t...   Mar 6 2008, 03:34 PM
dc2002   I was trying to decide if I want to add another sw...   Mar 6 2008, 03:51 PM
stangbat   Since it is controlling the 240v stuff, I thought ...   Mar 6 2008, 04:08 PM
dc2002   Yes, I acquired a 50A spa panel - swapped out the ...   Mar 6 2008, 04:34 PM
dc2002   Well, one step closer...I just hooked up all the w...   Mar 8 2008, 03:46 PM
dc2002   ITS ALIVE!!!   Mar 12 2008, 07:13 AM
stangbat   Cool. Us Brewboarders are keeping Auber in busine...   Mar 12 2008, 09:27 AM
dc2002   Cutting the holes was a PITA...Dremel with a fiber...   Mar 12 2008, 09:54 AM
dc2002   Making more progress... Finished wiring the garage...   Mar 19 2008, 07:12 PM
Monster Mash   NICE JOB!!! I like the box...   Mar 19 2008, 09:38 PM
stangbat   That looks really nice. Where did you get that ca...   Mar 19 2008, 10:16 PM
dc2002   Found it on Ebay for $20...its a Hammond 1401...   Mar 20 2008, 06:49 AM
dc2002   UPDATE!!! The HLT is almost done...I ...   Apr 11 2008, 07:17 AM
dc2002   Heres more... Thermowell bulkhead in place Thermo...   Apr 11 2008, 07:18 AM
dc2002   Plugged in Fired up Complete HLT....Almost... ...   Apr 11 2008, 07:19 AM
P-J   Carl, That rig is looking great. You are no longe...   Apr 11 2008, 10:06 AM
IronGuillotine   Dang! Nice work. Just make sure you watch your...   Apr 11 2008, 12:58 PM
Ben Z.   QUOTE(IronGuillotine @ Apr 11 2008, 01:58...   Apr 11 2008, 01:05 PM
Ibrew   Am I the only one who don't understand how sol...   Apr 11 2008, 03:59 PM
stangbat   QUOTE(Ibrew @ Apr 11 2008, 03:59 PM) Am ...   Apr 11 2008, 04:22 PM
rbarr110   QUOTE(stangbat @ Apr 11 2008, 02:22 PM) N...   Apr 11 2008, 06:36 PM
DavidS   QUOTE(Ibrew @ Apr 11 2008, 04:59 PM) Am ...   Apr 14 2008, 08:23 AM
P-J   QUOTE(DavidS) I do not know what braze alloy/flux ...   Apr 14 2008, 08:53 AM
stevehaun   Very nicely done!   Apr 11 2008, 08:50 PM
dc2002   Report: I brewed last Friday - Dennys Rye IPA and...   Apr 14 2008, 07:28 AM
P-J   QUOTE(dc2002) ~~~ and the mash tun reached temp in...   Apr 14 2008, 08:04 AM
dc2002   It is a liquid flux - Harris Stay Clean - Paul (P-...   Apr 14 2008, 08:55 AM
stangbat   Florian mentioned using some kind of "pencil...   Apr 14 2008, 09:00 AM
P-J   QUOTE(stangbat @ Apr 14 2008, 10:00 AM) F...   Apr 14 2008, 09:27 AM
dc2002   I did not...I just applied the heat to the fitting...   Apr 14 2008, 09:14 AM
DJ in KC   QUOTE(dc2002 @ Apr 14 2008, 09:14 AM) ......   Apr 14 2008, 09:23 AM
DavidS   The temperature indicating crayons are called Temp...   Apr 14 2008, 12:17 PM
dc2002   Another step forward...got the sight gauge mounted...   Apr 24 2008, 07:59 AM
stangbat   I've got to learn to solder this stuff. That ...   Apr 24 2008, 10:08 AM
P-J   QUOTE(stangbat @ Apr 24 2008, 11:08 AM) I...   Apr 24 2008, 10:41 AM
stout_fan   QUOTE(stangbat @ Apr 24 2008, 11:08 AM) I...   Apr 24 2008, 12:15 PM
DJ in KC   QUOTE(stangbat @ Apr 24 2008, 10:08 AM) I...   Apr 24 2008, 05:56 PM
Squeeky   Not to whore out P-J, but the man is a pleasure an...   Apr 24 2008, 04:10 PM
big t   That is a cool setup you got there. I really like...   Apr 24 2008, 06:40 PM
dc2002   Thank you all!!! would not have been ...   Apr 24 2008, 06:46 PM
bakins   Hey dc2002, when I upgrade to stainless for my ket...   Apr 25 2008, 08:17 AM
dc2002   Stay brite does make a flux designed for aluminum....   Apr 25 2008, 08:43 AM
Ibrew   As for welding stainless on stainless or even like...   Apr 25 2008, 09:10 AM
dc2002   I have only used stay brite 8 they make a regular ...   Apr 25 2008, 09:32 AM
Squeeky   Any update with stirrer?   May 6 2008, 02:55 PM
Push Eject   http://www.wortomatic.com/articles/Carl's-Elec...   May 6 2008, 05:41 PM
stangbat   I also use a Molon motor for my HLT stirrer. It d...   May 6 2008, 09:24 PM
DJ in KC   QUOTE(stangbat @ May 6 2008, 09:24 PM) I ...   May 6 2008, 10:10 PM
VolFan   Well done! I have all the wiring complete on ...   May 8 2008, 07:42 PM
dc2002   Ebay would be your best bet... Stay Brite 8 Stay ...   May 11 2008, 11:48 AM
Sampler   I just stumbed across this again... so where are t...   Aug 4 2008, 06:55 PM
dc2002   I was brewing last week and learned just how well ...   Apr 5 2009, 08:50 AM
ncbeerbrewer   Thank goodness for GFI.   Apr 5 2009, 08:57 AM
dc2002   It definitely gives me piece of mind since my late...   Apr 5 2009, 09:05 AM
P-J   It's great.. You are a man with a plan. Now we...   Apr 5 2009, 10:54 AM
dc2002   I like it!!! The next thing I need ...   Apr 6 2009, 09:34 AM
dc2002   ******WARNING****** A couple fridays ago I was br...   Feb 18 2010, 09:36 AM
enid   QUOTESo...last night I went through all connection...   Feb 18 2010, 10:09 PM
P-J   Hey Carl, We all need an update on your brewery. ...   Mar 29 2010, 08:49 PM
stangbat   I missed your comment in February, dc2002, but tha...   Mar 29 2010, 10:34 PM
Blove   I am accumulating parts for an electric brew syste...   Apr 1 2010, 08:37 AM
stangbat   QUOTE(Blove @ Apr 1 2010, 08:37 AM) I am ...   Apr 1 2010, 10:50 AM
Monster Mash   A spa panel is the best way to go, they aren't...   Apr 1 2010, 03:30 PM
medtech   I got lucky because my brewery is 15 feet away fro...   Apr 1 2010, 09:36 PM
Jess   I just ran across this thread again. Going electri...   Jun 5 2012, 11:09 PM
P-J   QUOTE(Jess @ Jun 6 2012, 12:09 AM) I jus...   Jul 24 2012, 06:28 PM
dc2002   Reliably too...I am still going strong, as a matte...   Jun 21 2013, 10:07 AM


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